Talk:Star Wars: Force Powers

Specific Force Power Discussion

Fortify Mind

Should each success rolled add 1 to MDV? Or is that too much? (You could get some really high MDVs for powerful Jedi but that's kind of the point.)

Kirkland 18:48, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

Sense Danger

Are multiples of two minutes per success too much? I can't think of any examples in the books or movies where the Jedi have that much of a danger warning. For example, when Anakin and Obi-wan are guarding sleeping Padme - they are warned only moments before those deadly insects get to her. And these are two very experienced Jedi. It usually go off just in time for the Jedi to act on it. I'm thinking about removing the timing on it altogether and just favoring a guideline for the scope of the coverage. Thoughts?

Kirkland 21:40, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

Now that I think about it, 2 minutes per success is way too much. Recall Yoda - probably the most skilled Sense/Divination Jedi in canon SW - was only aware of Order 66's execution moments before his clone trooper guard closed in on him. He time to react, but certainly none to spare. I think seconds is more realistic, honestly.

Dan 22:00, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

Agreed, seconds definitely seems more realistic. I think one second (tick) per success would be good and still can provide the necessary advantage of never being surprise attacked.

--FyreFly 22:13, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

Sense Force

I think the roll should be Sense + Divination, since most other rolls are Force Attribute + Force Ability. There's also an argument for Sense + Telepathy, since it's something along the lines of detecting how powerful someone's mind is.

Kirkland 18:30, 12 May 2009 (EDT)

I agree, I like Sense + Divination more. Occasionally the use of Telepathy might apply more and can be left up to the ST. Instead of giving a bonus for an active search vs. normal awareness we can just use the concentration power listed to allow searchers to add dice.

--FyreFly 19:15, 12 May 2009 (EDT)

Force System

Just jotting down some notes of my conversation with Dan regarding the use of Force powers.

We're looking at a hybrid approach: some force powers being universally accessible by all jedi and some that must be learned. There is a certain unity or flow with the force that doesn't lend itself to picking and choosing which powers a jedi absolutely has or absolutely does not have. If all force powers were equally accessible, however, even powerful jedi would have access to freely (and effectively) use powers that they have never used before. For example, if a jedi had never cleansed another's body of disease then I would not expect him to be able to do it correctly the first time he tries - even if his Control and Enhancement skills are extremely high.

Thus, the hybrid approach. We will treat the more complex force powers the same way charms are treated in Exalted. They are defined as specific powers with specific ability requirements and possibly force power dependencies.

Kirkland 04:27, 29 March 2009 (EDT)

Might I suggest that specific force powers that require training be done very much like charms and we make a force feats section. The feats could have level requirements, and/or ability and attribute requirements and would be a pretty good way of doing it. Then using the feat, performing the force power would still be an attribute + ability roll.

Something like Force Storm, prerequisite Level 10, Alter 3, Energy 4. Allows use of the Force Storm ability which would be a Alter + Energy complex action to create, and maybe a Control + Energy (or alter again) simple action to control? Just a quick example off the top of my head, a lot of that is subject to change probably.

--FyreFly 16:16, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

I think we're on the same wavelength, but let me make sure I understand what you're suggesting. Are you suggesting force powers be feats themselves? I would prefer to keep them separate from feats. Let's make them powers, very similar to charms, in that they have ability requirements and prerequisites. These powers would only be for complex force powers. I'd define a complex force power as something that not all jedi can do: something that must be trained, or something unique. We can keep simple force powers separate from the charm-like system. What do you guys think?

Kirkland 00:05, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

Force Power Detail

Once we have a standardized format, we will start transferring this stuff to the main Force Power page.

Type: Learned or Common
Cost:
Speed: How long it takes to activate or use the power
Duration: How long the power or effect lasts
Requirements: Minimum attribute, force power scores, or experience level required in order to use
Description:

Force Powers Worksheet

This is just a worksheet for Force Powers.

Wookieepedia: Force Powers

Attributes

Control
Sense
Alter

Skills

Telepathy
Telekinesis
Energy
Enhancement
Divination

WEG

Control-Based Powers

Absorb/Dissipate Energy
Accelerate Healing
Concentration
Contort/Escape
Control Disease
Control Pain
Detoxify Poison
Emptiness
Enhance Attribute
Force of Will
Hibernation Trance
Instinctive Astrogation Control
Rage
Reduce Injury
Remain Conscious
Remove Fatigue
Resist Stun
Short-Term Memory Enhancement

Sense-Based Powers

Beast Languages
Combat Sense
Danger Sense
Instinctive Astrogation
Life Detection
Life Sense
Life Web
Magnify Senses
Merge Senses
Postcognition
Predict Natural Disaster
Receptive Telepathy
Sense Force
Sense Force Potential
Sense Path
Shift Sense
Translation
Weather Sense

Alter-Based Powers

Bolt of Hatred (Sith)
Dark Side Web (Sith)
Injure/Kill
Telekinesis

Control and Sense:

Farseeing
Life Bond
Lightsaber Combat
Projective Telepathy

Control and Alter:

Accelerate Another's Healing
Aura of Uneasiness (Sith)
Control Another's Disease
Control Another's Pain
Control Breathing
Detoxify Poison in Another
Electronic Manipulation (Sith)
Feed on Dark Side
Force Lightning
Inflict Pain
Place Another in Hibernation Trance
Remove Another's Fatigue
Return Another to Consciousness
Transfer Force
Waves of Darkness (Sith)

Control, Sense, and Alter:

Affect Mind
Battle Meditation
Control Mind
Create Force Storms
Dopplegänger
Drain Life Energy (Sith)
Drain Life Essense
Enhanced Coordination
Force Harmony
Memory Wipe (Sith)
Projected Fighting
Telekinetic Kill
Transfer Life

Sense and Alter:

Dim Other's Senses
Force Wind (Sith)
Lesser Force Shield

WOTC

Affect Mind: Alter + Telepathy
Battle Mind: Control + Enhancement
Drain Energy: Alter + Energy
Empathy: Sense + Telepathy
Enhance Ability: Control + Enhancement
Enhance Sense: Sense + Enhancement
Foreseeing: Sense + Divination
Fear: Sense + Telepathy
Force Defense: Control + Enhancement
Force Grip: Alter + Telekinesis
Force Lightning: Alter + Energy
Force Stealth: Control + ???
Force Strike: Alter + Telekinesis
Friendship: Alter + Telepathy
Heal Another: Alter + Enhancement
Heal Self: Control + Enhancement
Illusion: Alter + Telepathy
Move Object: Alter + Telekinesis
See Force: Sense + Divination
Telepathy: Sense + Telepathy
Force Speed: Control + Enhancement
Dissipate Energy: Alter + Energy
Force Flight: Alter + Telekinesis